Challenging Justice: Rubbing the Wrong Way with Deceptive Verdicts

Justitie in een moeilijk vaarwater: tegen de haren in strijken met misleidende vonnissen

Rub someone the wrong way

Idiom US (UK rub someone up the wrong way)

To annoy someone without intending to

As soon as they met they started to rub each other the wrong way.

Cambridge Dictionary

To annoy someone

He was known as an arrogant player who rubbed his teammates the wrong way.

American Cambridge Dictionary

The English equivalent of 

the Dutch saying 

tegen de borst stuiten” is

to rub someone the wrong way” or “
to be objectionable to someone.” 

It refers to something that is displeasing or offensive to someone’s sensibilities or beliefs.

 

While “to rub someone the wrong way” and “to go against the grain” are related in the sense of causing discomfort or irritation, they convey slightly different nuances.

“To rub someone the wrong way” specifically refers to causing annoyance or irritation to a person due to one’s behavior or actions. It’s often used in interpersonal contexts.

“To go against the grain,” on the other hand, refers more broadly to acting or behaving in a manner contrary to what is conventional or expected. It implies going against established norms or standards, rather than specifically irritating someone.

So, while there can be overlap in their meanings, “to rub someone the wrong way” focuses more on personal interactions, whereas “to go against the grain” is about deviating from societal or cultural norms.

 

De geijkte uitdrukking is tegen de borst stuiten. Stuiten heeft hier de betekenis ‘aanstoot geven’. Het is verwant met stuitend. Stuiten wordt regelmatig vervoegd: stuiten, stuitte, gestuit.

De interne partijstrijd stuit mij tegen de borst.
De manier waarop de dieren werden behandeld, heeft hem altijd tegen de borst gestuit.
Tegen de borst stoten heeft alleen de letterlijke betekenis ‘tegen de borst aanstoten’.

Hij deed alsof hij per ongeluk tegen haar borst stootte.

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Post Office Scandal

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1 The most widespread miscarriage of justice in UK history explained | Post Office Horizon IT scandal

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9 jan 2024

The Post Office Horizon IT scandal is the most widespread miscarriage of justice in UK history, with 900 postmasters wrongly taken to court.

The Times reporter, Tom Witherow, has everything you need to know.

Go against the grain

If something goes against the grain, you would not usually do it because it would be unusual

These days it goes against the grain to show too much respect for authority.

Cambridge Dictionary

It conveys the idea of doing something that goes against the natural flow or opposing the general opinion, causing irritation or discomfort.

2 Prosecutor Seems Unable to Explain ‘Obvious’ Post Office Evidence


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25 jan 2024

Former Procurator Fiscal David Teal seems unable to explain ‘obvious’ Post Office Evidence to the Post Office Inquiry.

David Teal points out that decisions that are obvious may or may not have been recorded but seems to get tangled up with what the two pieces of evidence relied upon actually meet the crucial legal test of the law of corroboration whilst admitting that a piece of evidence might not actually show a crime had taken place, despite initially saying that it showed embezzlement by the accused subpostmaster.

3 ‘A Cover-Up from the Very Top’ Post Office Scandal Victim Dierdre Connolly | Good Morning Britain

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26 jan 2024

The Post Office Inquiry turns its attention to Northern Ireland, where a former investigator, who pursued sub-postmasters, will give evidence.

Deirdre Connolly from County Tyrone was accused of stealing £15,000 and says the scandal ruined her life. She joins GMB today to discuss the impact the accusation has had, despite paying the Post Office and never being prosecuted.

Broadcast on 26/01/24

4 ‘You found nothing’: Post office inquiry sees tense exchange


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23 jan 2024

A postmaster’s concerns about errors in Horizon were dismissed as “unfounded”, the inquiry heard.

Post Office investigator, Robert Daily, questioned Peter Holmes about a shortage of more than £46,000 which was discovered during an audit.

Mr Holmes, a sub-postmaster from Newcastle, said he had “absolutely no idea” why there was a shortage but suggested Horizon may be at fault.

He said: “Unless it’s the Horizon that has let us down, there is no one who has stolen £40,000. I haven’t got it, it’s not in my bank account… I’ve spent too many years in the police force seeing things go wrong to start stealing money, I really do not know.”

Mr Daily later said checks were made and that the postmaster’s concerns were “unfounded”.

5 ‘Post Office Inquiry: Ex-investigator insists wrongly convicted victim still guilty

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24 jan 2024

Raymond Grant has said he believes that William Quarm, who was wrongly convicted of stealing from a Post Office, is still guilty.

When the former investigator was asked if he thought Mr Quarm continued to be guilty of embezzlement, he said: “In this witness statement today? Yes”.

The counsel then pressed him on the issue and asked if he thought Mr Quarm remains guilty of the crime, despite the verdict being overturned, Mr Grant said: “Yes, I do. I still think Mr Quarm had a role to play in the loss of the money.”

William Quarm was convicted in 2010 of stealing from a Post Office he ran in North Uist, the Outer Hebrides.

6 Can the “Post Office convictions” be quashed by legislation?

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23 jan 2024

The government has recently announced that it intends to quash by legislation convictions of hundreds of subpostmasters who had been prosecuted by the Post Office for, variously, theft, fraud and false accounting. This follows a number of appeals which have already succeeded where it has been accepted that convictions that are based on generated by the Horizon software are necessarily unsafe. Usually, one would expect other subpostmasters to have to follow that same route, but the government is concerned about the delay in processing so many cases. Nonetheless it is unprecedented to quash convictions by legislative fiat in a situation when the courts would yet be competent to do the same; and notwithstanding the concerns of criminal and constitutional lawyers, a Bill to this effect appears likely to be produced this year and to receive support from all sides of the House of Commons.

In this short video Dr Jonathan Rogers explains the background, explores the challenges that will face those who draft the legislation, and comments further on the likely reservations that many will still entertain about this innovation.

Jonathan Rogers is Associate Professor in Criminal Justice at the University of Cambridge, and a Fellow of Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge. He co-founded the Criminal Law Reform Now Network (http://www.clrnn.co.uk/) in 2017 and leads an ongoing project by that network into the reform of private prosecutions, and in that capacity he gave evidence to the Justice Select Committee in 2020 on safeguards in the wake of the Post Office scandal.

7 Post Office accused of cover-up

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27 jan 2024

New documents reveal the Post Office decided to sack forensic accountants who had found bugs in their IT systems.

They also reveal the government had knowledge of the decision, taken by a Post Office board sub-committee, codenamed “Project Sparrow”.

7 “Firms Sit On Their Golden Thrones And Ivory Towers” | Fat Cat Lawyers In The Post Office Scandal

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24 jan 2024

The Post Office paid one single law firm a staggering £37.5m to help them deny postmasters compensation according to an exclusive investigation by TalkTV.

Womble Bond Dickinson represented the Post Office against civil class actions from Alan Bates in 2017 and recently released a statement saying “we have great sympathy for all those affected by the feelings of the Horizon IT system.”

They continued: “It is important to clarify this represents a gross fee figure for all types of work over a 10-year period. This includes significant third party costs, such as barrister fees, which are typically paid by a law firm on behalf of a client.”

TalkTV’s Kevin O’Sullivan and Alex Phillips are joined by former sub-postmaster Wendy Buffrey to discuss the law firm’s involvement in defending the Post Office.

8 Post Office chairman to leave amid row with government


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27 jan 2024

The chairman of the Post Office is being forced out of the role amid frustration in Whitehall over the state-owned company’s governance as it reels from the Horizon IT scandal.

Sky News has learnt that Henry Staunton, who only became chairman of the Post Office in December 2022 after a long career in FTSE boardrooms, was this weekend told by Kemi Badenoch, the business secretary, that he will be replaced amid mounting tension with the government.

One law firm alone was payed 37,5 Milj Pounds

9 Kemi Badenoch sacks Post Office chairman

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28 jan 2024

Kemi Badenoch has said she was forced to intervene over “difficulties” with Post Office governance by sacking its chairman as the company was plunged into crisis by the Horizon IT scandal.

10 There is something rotten throughout the Post Office culture | Lord Arbuthnot

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28 jan 2024

‘The main problem is the culture within the Post Office…traipsing before the public inquiry, all of these liars’.

This is an opportunity to speed up the payment of compensation and refocus the Post Office brand, says Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom.

10 Post Office culture hasn’t changed | Labour MP Kevan Jones

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28 jan 2024

“The public enquiry shows they’re still struggling to get information out of the Post Office. The culture needs to change.”

There is potentially now another scandal, so why has it taken me and others to actually highlight this, says Kevan Jones, Labour MP for North Durham.

11 Labour MP absolutely terrorises Royal Mail bosses over worker conditions at Select Committee

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24 feb 2023

Do whatever you want in life, but never ever get on the wrong side of Darren Jones.

The Labour MP grilled Royal Mail execs at the BEIS Select Committee on 22 February.

12 Antony Higginbotham Quizzes Post Office CEO – PART 1

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21 jan 2024
 
As part of the Business and Trade Committee Burnley and Padiham’s MP Antony Higginbotham questioned Post Office CEO Nick Read on the Horizon Scandal.

13 Antony Higginbotham Quizzes Post Office CEO – PART 2

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21 jan 2024

As part of the Business and Trade Committee Burnley and Padiham’s MP Antony Higginbotham questioned Post Office CEO Nick Read on the Horizon Scandal.

14 Antony Higginbotham Quizzes Post Office CEO – PART 3

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21 jan 2024
 
As part of the Business and Trade Committee Burnley and Padiham’s MP Antony Higginbotham questioned Post Office CEO Nick Read on the Horizon Scandal.

15 “The Post Office was lying on an industrial scale to me and other ministers”: Ed Davey

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8 jan 2024 LONDON
 

Ed Davey speaking on Sky News, 8 January 2024: “The Post Office was lying on an industrial scale to me and other ministers.” He want on to say that victims of the Horizon scandal must be “fairly compensated”.

16 Message from the Chair of the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry

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30 sep 2022

Ahead of public hearings resuming for Phase 2 of the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry, Sir Wyn Williams delivers a video message, reflecting on the Human Impact phase, announcing that the initial Phase 2 timetable has been published and that the public can register interest in attending the hearings in person. He also announces that he will hold a further hearing on the processes for delivering compensation to those who are entitled to claim it on 8 December 2022.

17 ‘You found nothing’: Post office inquiry sees tense exchange

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23 jan 2024

A postmaster’s concerns about errors in Horizon were dismissed as “unfounded”, the inquiry heard.

Post Office investigator, Robert Daily, questioned Peter Holmes about a shortage of more than £46,000 which was discovered during an audit.

Mr Holmes, a sub-postmaster from Newcastle, said he had “absolutely no idea” why there was a shortage but suggested Horizon may be at fault.

He said: “Unless it’s the Horizon that has let us down, there is no one who has stolen £40,000. I haven’t got it, it’s not in my bank account… I’ve spent too many years in the police force seeing things go wrong to start stealing money, I really do not know.”

Mr Daily later said checks were made and that the postmaster’s concerns were “unfounded”.

18 UK Post Office Scandal | UK Lawmakers Hold Session On Post Office Scandal | UK News Live | News18

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Live gestreamd op 16 jan 2024

UK Post Office Scandal | UK Lawmakers Hold Session On Post Office Scandal | UK News Live | News18

UK lawmakers hold session on Post Office scandal
MPs on the Business and Trade select committee will take evidence from various stakeholders looking at the compensation for Post Office and Horizon victims.
The witness attendees will be as follows:
1000-1030: Dr Neil Hudgell (Executive Chairman at Hudgell Solicitors) and Lord Arbuthnot
1030-1100: Alan Bates (Founder at Justice for Subpostmasters Alliance) and Jo Hamilton
1100-1130: Nick Read (Chief Executive at Post Office) and Paul Patterson (Director at Fujitsu Ltd)
1130-1200: Kevin Hollinrake MP (Minister for Enterprise, Markets and Small Business) and Carl Cresswell (Director, Business Resilience at the Department for Business and Trade)

19 How many Post Office directors have been charged for breach of statutory duties? | Lords questions

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30 jan 2024

In this question from Lord Sikka, members pressed the government on the number of prosecutions that have been brought against Post Office directors in relation to the Post Office Horizon scandal. Watch for more.

20 The Post Office Horizon Scandal: Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom on campaigning for justice | House of Lords

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8 jan 2024

James Arbuthnot – now Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom – was MP for Northeast Hampshire at the time of the Post Office Horizon Scandal. His constituent Jo Hamilton, was one of the subpostmasters affected and he has been campaigning, alongside others, ever since.

Hear more from Lord Arbuthnot on Horizon and its background, what has happened since and what he hopes will happen next in this clip from the House of Lords Podcast, recorded in June 2021.

21 Post Office Scandal Inquiry Closing Statements

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Heeft 18 uur geleden live gestreamd #post #postoffice #postofficescandal

Today, the statutory inquiry will hear the closing statements of Phase 4 of the Post Office Horizon IT scandal, after an ITV drama brought the scandal into the spotlight.

Click to read the full story: https://shorturl.at/qsv69

At minute 6: Having skin in the game

 

22 “It’s All Just A Bit Too Close” 2014 Photo Shows Former Post Office Boss Cosying Up To MPs

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31 jan 2024

A 2014 photo taken at the private members club the Carlton Club shows the then-Post Office boss and non executive chairman of Fujitsu cosying up to MPs and Conservative parliamentary candidate.

On the left is Simon Blagden who was the non executive chairman of Fujitsu, which ran the Post Office Horizon IT system. He’s now left the company.

On the right is Paula Vennells who was the CEO of the Post Office and has since hnded back her CBE.

In the middle is Kevin Hollinrake who was a parliamentary candidate for the Conservative Party at the time. He’s now the Post Office minister.

In the middle is Liz Truss, who at the time was a Government minister. Either side of her are Andrea Jenkyns and Lucy Frazer who were both Conservative Party parliamentary candidates.

Journalist at Private Eye magazine Richard Brooks brought the photo to light and joins TalkTV’s Nick Wallis and Rosie Wright.

23 “The scandal that has rocked the UK Post Office | 7.30


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31 jan 2024

The UK Post Office scandal is one of the biggest miscarriages of justice in modern British history. At its heart are false allegations that staff had stolen money. The years’ long saga is now the subject of an inquiry, probing whether the Post Office engaged in a cover up. Elias Clure reports from London.

24 Post Office scandal: PM “strongly supports” withdrawing CBE from ex-Post Office boss

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8 jan 2024
 

“We are on it” Rishi Sunak declared today as he sought to reassure sub-postmasters who were wrongly convicted of defrauding the Post Office in the Horizon scandal that he would speed up the process of quashing their convictions and making sure they get full compensation.

25 3,000 of Martin Bashir’s Emails with Princess Diana Released | Good Morning Britain

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31 jan 2024

The BBC have released around 3,000 emails relating to the scandalous 1995 interview between Martin Bashir and Princess Diana. Investigative journalist, Andy Webb joins GMB to discuss what those emails have revealed.

Broadcast on 31/01/24

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26 Former Sub-Postmasters Respond To Ex-Fujitsu Worker Speaking Out | Good Morning Britain

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2 feb 2024

The Post Office scandal reaches a fresh landmark today as the final submissions of Phase 4 of the Horizon Inquiry are heard. Phase 5 – which will see former Post Office chief executives including Paula Vennells and Adam Crozier called to the witness box – is due to start in April.

Former Sub-postmaster Lee Castleton says he and his family are still ‘picking up pieces’ of their lives after he was ordered to repay a shortfall of £25,000 as part of the Post Office scandal.

Christopher Head, once the youngest sub-postmaster in the country who was wrongly accused of theft and was hounded for £88,000 for almost five years.

Broadcast on 02/02/24

27 Kemi Badenoch grilled after shocking post office scandal allegation

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Post Office Scandal

What is the Scandal

Post Office Horizon IT

Nonexistent Crimes!

Hang someone out

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