Anyone wanting to read a good book about police corruption, should pick up Bent Coppers: Survey of Police Corruption by James Morton. It was published in 1994, but it showcase that problems within the police go further back than is known, and the problems it had to date, would lead to the problems that happened after.
This stuff has gotten worse in my 48 years of professional experience with the UK police, it seems justice is second to the police public perception! Anyone who has more than one interaction with them will know this, they lie to protect one another & especially magistrate court justice is effectively useless for justice because they believe that the police don’t lie! Funny how they are trained to lie in interviewing suspect’s, yet a lot of people believe they are doing a job where justice is key! Not so, some are worse than others & it’s not every officer, it is a problem that needs to be delt with, the complaints system needs to be elected & held to account as other bodies are! That would be a good start!
Imagine being surprised when the sun comes out in the morning.
My personal experience (from neighbours who were police officer) is that freemasonry, abuse of power, misogyny, racism etc are still commonplace. Not every police officer falls into those categories but most will be tolerating such behaviour. Giving JoB the benefit of the doubt, isn’t he (mis) speaking about the specific, direct and open political interference rather than the general corruption you rightly point out.
Not just the met – ALL POLICE OFFICERS FROM EVERY SINGLE FORCE should be held responsible.
Great show. Dick being the chief commander is there no wonder why the police are corrupt.
Bro, nothing surprising there! Those in power wont go down without a fight!
I can’t remember a time I ever trusted the police in the UK, that’s six decades and more of giving them a wide berth.
The rot in the Met starts at the top. As for the Freemasons in Scotland it’s the Orange Lodge that’s the problem in the police here.
I dont think James was insinuating that there isnt a history, it was probably a phrasing misstep, James is good and not an enemy from what ive seen why are we going after James?!
It sounds sweet how the police protect each other’s backs and protect the politicians knowing full well what they have been up to. There may be a promotion for them when they perform this act.
The met has a practiced apathy which wont go away easily!
James O’Brien did a great job in calling out the complicity. But it would be more accurate to say that Johnson is taking advantage of the Met, which doesn’t have a glowing reputation for thorough and independent investigation.
Bent plod covering up parliament, both houses, since the 1960’s is well acknowledged. My personal and professional experiences confirm this. Corruption including freemasonry corruption is also well acknowledged. My personal and professional experiences cannot confirm this freemasonry connection but I believe it. Providing safety for informants and undercover agents I accept must be in place.The racial discrimination is rampant and well known for example in Tottenham. Misogynistic behaviour from plod is something I have experienced in my professional life and personal life too to a lesser extent. The undercover agents who have relationships with people in the way mentioned is a form of rape in my view. Homophobic behaviour from the plod is something I have not encountered so will not comment. Religious bigotry is an issue I’ve encountered to an extent. City police and the met are bent, end of. I worked for Intel, thank you for the spycop mention. ( No I was never a police officer). Media personnel are there to make money and work with the corruption rather than tackle it quite often. The huge cost to an individual is a spiritual growth or death.
They don’t change. Although O’Brien has been criticising Met corruption in recent days.
There is no way this number of officers would break the rules unless they know they were being protected by politicians like Johnson, Starmer, and the police authority.
Just think about Menezes for a start. Was “Dick” not in charge of that? If so, she should have been dismissed immediately. This makes me absolutely sick.
The problem lies with the fact that Police Men were glorified for their role in keeping public order, while at the same time trying to overlook their transgressions and this led apart from any thing else to them feeling above the law.
A good survey of the history of Met corruption, but the video finished a bit weakly imo. Michael says we need to propose structural changes not simply cultural ones, but then doesn’t suggest any. No mention is made of the biggest structural problem (and the main reason the police exists as it does today): capitalism. If you base a society on a hierarchical system that perpetuates a vast economic divide, where a few get to own and control the wealth of society and the means of everyone else’s existence, then you inevitably end up needing a panoptic centralizing force to police that economic divide and the destructive psychological impulses it forces onto a tortured society. And such a body is inherently unaccountable by its nature. To make it accountable requires its abolition.
There are so many instances where Dick SHOULD have resigned, but BJ protected her and now we know why
I have to hold my hand up and say I got it wrong when I commented on one of these videos the other day, after hearing that the Met would be investigating the scandal, as I had imagined, after all the trouble they’d been in recently, that they would have to behave themselves on this one, but instead it would appear that they chose to double down and pull a colossal dick move… or should we perhaps just call it a Cressida from now on?
Are you disadvantaged, diagnosed, vulnerable or different? Well then we have a stereotype which allows us to treat you inhumanely. Are you standing up for your rights at all? Well that is reasonable suspicion of criminal behaviour. Do you have a complaint? Well. There is a complaints system which is unable to do more than tell you there is nothing to be done.
James has a short memory. The stories I’ve read and heard about the Met’s dodgy practices go back practically to my childhood.
james o’brien is not as politically savvy as he would like to believe, by his own admission he has in the past voted for de pfeffel.
Your researcher forgot to mention Dicks’ involvement in the fatal shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes at Stockwell Tube station in 2005 and the following attempted cover up by the Met.
I know of 2 situations in which the Met’s corruption has affected 2 people I know quite well. One was my brother, whose experiences as a Policeman during the miners’ strike (yes, I know…) led him to concur with the views of other policemen from other constabularies… That the best term for a Met officer is a banana, ‘cos they’re yellow, bent and go around in bunches. The 2nd instance was much more recent. A friend of mine who rides a really big bike was stopped and arrested… for being a member of a moped gang that was snatching handbags etc. The fact that he is/was employed in a senior position in an important service for the City of London, that his bike didn’t remotely match the type used by the gangs etc. had no bearing on the attitudes of the police. Apparently being of mixed ethnicity was a far greater indicator of his involvement. They held him for the maximum time allowed, deprived him of sleep, refused him access to counsel, and then released him. No apology, nothing. His wife says that he still suffers the after affects, and I believe her. He hasn’t actually told me this himself. And wtf should anybody believe that things are improving? When Police forces are so desperately short of manpower that they won’t even take reports of crimes (“You’ll have to make the report online” – to students visiting from Spain, yeah, right – just another example), one has to wonder whether the Met will ever take their own corruption seriously, even if the population at large finally demands it. The fact is that UK policing is still done with the population’s consent, which is why the UK has one of the smallest policing establishments in the world. But how long will that consent remain, if this overt malfeasance continues?
It’s permanently ‘open season’ for the Met.
Its true they’ve always been corrupt. But there is such a thing as a real qualitative shift. If all we see are a bunch of grey cats or whatever the Hegel quote is-we’re no sharp enough for the terrible times we live in.
Nothing to see…..now move along or you’ll pepper sprayed and taken into custody
Aaron spot on as usual!
O’Brien probably sees these people when out for meals or drinks,
Not into conspiracy theories, nor am I generally negative against the police. However, I am struggling now to see some of the things that are happening without seeing elements that look like conspiracy. I am especially surprised that C Dick has survived given the awful things that have happened under her watch, that she has been promoted, made a Dame and given a contract extension, and now failing to investigate partygate and then holding the Grey report up to hold an investigation. Very disappointing that K Starmer supported her.
This big issue with racism of the Police and the interconnection between the Police Force, and Downing Street, that goes all the way to every department in the government. There is no transparency, there is hiding the facts, protecting each others, back and helping others to get contracts they are not qualified to get, It is a long and sad story which, at the end of the day will eat at the heart of the country.
Why go after James O’Brian…? He’s not the enemy here. I agree with building on his point, but to make him part of the target is a bit low
2 words Leon & Brittan….. just ask Nick Clegg for details.
A certain sector of the community has been telling you this for years so I’m glad you can all see for yourself now…
Where you find power, you will find corruption.
Good piece. I didn’t totally understand why you were so keen to put the poor into James OB. Yeah, he might be missing stuff but booting him isn’t a good look.
Remember Gavin Williams, Matt Hancock, D. Raab, and how bad they were at their jobs but were protected all the way to the bitter end????.
Corruption “almost to the top”? TO the very top and beyond
The Met corrupt ?! how do you think Dick is still in uniform ?
O’Brainiac: You can take the boy outta the Establishment (press) but you can’t take the Establishment outta the boy!
I remember in the 80’s my friend was busted for an ounce of hash, but was only charged for one gram……
We should judge the the commissioner on her record, and how she acts, not the fancy words she recites.
Just make you despair, what institution can any law abiding citizens put faith and trust?
I don’t mean to be rude but British governments has always had a set of principles they adhere to publicly but are willing to throw those principles out the window for expediency. After WWII the were a rash of accidents involving some of the former members of Mosley’s BUF…nobody looked into it very much but traitors turned up dead. Similarly there are reports of Protestant paramilitaries in Northern Ireland given classified information about IRA members…Nothing to see there, let’s stop the prosecutions they said. There is a set of rules for you and set of rules for their friends. What’s new ?
Blair Peach was killed by a blow on the head administered by a police officer in a demonstration in Southall in April 1979. After numerous attempts at whitewash by the police and other authorities the killer was identified as being a member of a small group of 6 officers in SPG Unit 1-1. These officers obstructed the subsequent investigation and the Met decided that since they would not co-operate in identifying the killer no-one could be charged. Does anyone imagine that 6 demonstrators involved similarly in the death of a police officer would not be charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice? Corrupt at every level.
Kier Starmer dropped the Daniel Morgan case!!!? Wtf, this is a HUGE deal!!
I thought you were criticising James o’Brien until I saw the tweet was from James oh Brien.
The innocent people who have been locked up for years …
“BAH GAHD, IT’S THE NOVARA TEAM WITH A STEEL CHAIR!”
Michael Bentine had a book about the Met. It was so obvious decades ago, what has changed? What happened to ‘burned at the stake’?
A Damehood comes at a price.
We like to think we have the best police in the world recent events have made us realise maybe we have corupt police
The Cyril Smith affair springs to mind 
Police and Gangsters go hand in hand
Sounds very similar to mafia.
She allwaysbeen corrutlock at everything what’s going on
Who wants to be a copper when you won’t be left on the hook?
Police, who “police” the police . Marking their own “homework” They don’t even know they are doing it , it just comes so naturally . How many people die in police custody ! how many police held to account ?
20′ – Walls, israeli could help you put up walls between those and fill up the tunnels.
I’m sure o brien meant the “CURRENT” Met… Which is like now just like Blowjo!
Fantastic. We’ll done.
Just shameful and blatant corruption.
the abuse of power comes as no surprise
The police corrupt? NOOOOOO(!)
sue them
all police plz get oout off the london bubble, you are becoming like the bbc
Power corrupts.
It makes you sick
May may may!!!!!
Don’t understand why the attack on O’Brien to make otherwise good points.
Water is also wet.
Most black people in this country could have told you this is the case for decades now.
you’re just a talking head, agreed? i watch all videos on subjects that interest me and i watch as many different opinions as i can. for you to call out anyone for being wrong for doing the same is laughable
I don’t dislike James, but sometimes he says some mindbogglingly idiotic stuff
What a patronising jibe against James o’Brien. He probably knows more about political history, and the history of political corruption, than you do.
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